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		<title>Comment on Aaron&#8217;s story by James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil</title>
		<link>http://footbullet.net/2009/11/21/aarons-story/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If any organization other than one claiming to be a &quot;religion&quot; tried this stuff. they would either all be in prison doing very hard time or lined up and shot.

The more I learn about Scientology, and I have their materials, the more I am in favor of the latter.

Fortunately, here in Brazil, they are nearly non-existent.  Any that approach me will wish they were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any organization other than one claiming to be a &#8220;religion&#8221; tried this stuff. they would either all be in prison doing very hard time or lined up and shot.</p>
<p>The more I learn about Scientology, and I have their materials, the more I am in favor of the latter.</p>
<p>Fortunately, here in Brazil, they are nearly non-existent.  Any that approach me will wish they were.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aaron&#8217;s story by Scientology&#8230; it&#8217;s the new black &#171; Floating in America</title>
		<link>http://footbullet.net/2009/11/21/aarons-story/#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>Scientology&#8230; it&#8217;s the new black &#171; Floating in America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s wrong with Scientology? by Henry</title>
		<link>http://footbullet.net/2009/11/18/whats-wrong-with-scientology/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scientology&#039;s methods are crude, but their goals and premises are the same as any religion. Jesus told his followers to disconnect from non-believer family and friends too. As soon as the Saddam police state crumbled in Iraq, Sunnis and Shiites started running power drills through the heads of believers from the other faction of Islam and then dumping their bodies in the Tigris. We hear news reports every year of Christian Science families murdering their children by denying them proper medical care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology&#8217;s methods are crude, but their goals and premises are the same as any religion. Jesus told his followers to disconnect from non-believer family and friends too. As soon as the Saddam police state crumbled in Iraq, Sunnis and Shiites started running power drills through the heads of believers from the other faction of Islam and then dumping their bodies in the Tigris. We hear news reports every year of Christian Science families murdering their children by denying them proper medical care.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dear Zombie Jesus by Proxima Centauri</title>
		<link>http://footbullet.net/2009/05/11/dear-zombie-jesus/#comment-586</link>
		<dc:creator>Proxima Centauri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please ask him how Richard Dawkins helped him with his evangelisation, try and discuss the book with him.  If he really reads “The God Delusion” that might weaken his faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please ask him how Richard Dawkins helped him with his evangelisation, try and discuss the book with him.  If he really reads “The God Delusion” that might weaken his faith.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scientology&#8217;s war on reality by bef</title>
		<link>http://footbullet.net/2009/11/28/scientology-war-on-reality/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>bef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jim, I&#039;m well aware of the coincidence. It caused a lot of confusion when I first started posting on OCMB and such, people thought that OSA Andrew Milne had blown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jim, I&#8217;m well aware of the coincidence. It caused a lot of confusion when I first started posting on OCMB and such, people thought that OSA Andrew Milne had blown.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scientology&#8217;s war on reality by Jim Lippard</title>
		<link>http://footbullet.net/2009/11/28/scientology-war-on-reality/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Lippard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is your name really Andrew Milne?  If so, that&#039;s quite ironic--that was the name of a representative of the Church of Scientology who posted regularly on the alt.religion.scientology Usenet newsgroup in the mid-1990s.

If you aren&#039;t familiar with Scientology&#039;s war on the Internet in the mid-1990s and how it relates to the more recent battles with Anonymous, check out my &quot;Scientology Sampler&quot; blog post from 2006 (and especially the link to the Skeptic magazine article Jeff Jacobsen and I wrote) and Jeff Jacobsen&#039;s article from last year on Anonymous:

http://lippard.blogspot.com/2006/03/scientology-sampler.html

http://lippard.blogspot.com/2008/12/jeff-jacobsen-article-on-anonymous.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is your name really Andrew Milne?  If so, that&#8217;s quite ironic&#8211;that was the name of a representative of the Church of Scientology who posted regularly on the alt.religion.scientology Usenet newsgroup in the mid-1990s.</p>
<p>If you aren&#8217;t familiar with Scientology&#8217;s war on the Internet in the mid-1990s and how it relates to the more recent battles with Anonymous, check out my &#8220;Scientology Sampler&#8221; blog post from 2006 (and especially the link to the Skeptic magazine article Jeff Jacobsen and I wrote) and Jeff Jacobsen&#8217;s article from last year on Anonymous:</p>
<p><a href="http://lippard.blogspot.com/2006/03/scientology-sampler.html" rel="nofollow">http://lippard.blogspot.com/2006/03/scientology-sampler.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://lippard.blogspot.com/2008/12/jeff-jacobsen-article-on-anonymous.html" rel="nofollow">http://lippard.blogspot.com/2008/12/jeff-jacobsen-article-on-anonymous.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Mormons Devour 100 Patty Burger by Corina Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corina Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no.
How could do guys do that.?
You were sent on a mission to spread the word of God; telling the people about the gospel, instead you guys are totally wasting time, feeding your faces when you could be out there feeding people with the knowledge you have about the gospel.

It&#039;s not my place to judge but guys seriously think about the purpose of your mission before you do something uncalled for.

Other than that;
Love you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no.<br />
How could do guys do that.?<br />
You were sent on a mission to spread the word of God; telling the people about the gospel, instead you guys are totally wasting time, feeding your faces when you could be out there feeding people with the knowledge you have about the gospel.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not my place to judge but guys seriously think about the purpose of your mission before you do something uncalled for.</p>
<p>Other than that;<br />
Love you all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scientology&#8217;s war on reality by Lousy Canuck &#187; RCimT: Fashionably Late Sunday Readings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lousy Canuck &#187; RCimT: Fashionably Late Sunday Readings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about time someone exposes Scientology&#8217;s war on reality. And by &#8220;about time&#8221;, I mean, it&#8217;s been done a million times already (and even by [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Aaron&#8217;s story by Dean Fox</title>
		<link>http://footbullet.net/2009/11/21/aarons-story/#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave,

I agree that intent of most subscribers to the organisation calling itself the church of scientology is to do good. The problem is their intention to do good has been abused by the organisation to turn them in to revenue machines for the organisation. 

Subscribers to the organisation calling itself the church of scientology have been taught and sincerely believe that the only way to help is to spread scientology tech; it&#039;s the only hope for mankind. 

They are also taught and sincerely believe that not only is the organisations&#039; tech the only way to help but that other forms of help, especially but limited to psychiatry, are actually damaging and must be stopped. 

It is this kind of programming that has subscribers to the organisation turn up and disaster zones armed only with a yellow tent and scientology literature, including &quot;anti-psych&quot; literature, in order to help. They believe they are helping but all they are doing is selling scientology tech at disaster zones; they even have a PR hatted person to ensure good coverage. 

Of the many subscribers to the organisation I have known most have been decent people. However as time goes on either more and more demands are put upon them to buy courses and materials or more and more demands are put upon them to sell more courses and materials, or both. 

Many become disillusioned with the organisation and see the scam for what it is, an expensive form of self improvement that like most others only works to some degree on some people. 

Those it works best with often become disillusioned with the organisation but think it is the problem with the management. They hold out hope that a change in management will result in improvements, what they don&#039;t realise is that the core policies are the real problem and the only way to ditch those is to break up the organisation because the organisation is built upon them. 

Sadly there are those who end up having some kind of psychotic break; often the nicest of people because they are unable to reconcile the supposed beliefs and ideals with the common practices. Here I speak not just of the likes of Lisa McPherson and Greg Bashaw, who ended up dead, but the many others who ultimately survived but only after many months, often years of tailored counselling.

You say the problem with the Freezone is its lack of facilities. Why does scientology need to be like a Toyota car plant? This is part of the problem, the factory mentality of the organisation. It isn&#039;t enough that one goes at one&#039;s own pace and cherry picks what works best for them, it is vital that they do more courses and buy more materials in order to keep the organisations stats up and, more importantly, keep the money flowing in.

If people want to embark on a journey of self discovery and improvement and choose to study scientology as part of that then they should not be pressured in to taking courses or buying materials. The Freezone operate reading rooms and there are independent auditors who provide auditing for a modest fee.  

The problem is that Aaron&#039;s accounts are not an example of the organisation calling itself the church of scientology going wrong, they are an example of exactly how it operates, which is exactly how Hubbard intended it to operate as documented in the myriad of special Sea Org eyes only policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave,</p>
<p>I agree that intent of most subscribers to the organisation calling itself the church of scientology is to do good. The problem is their intention to do good has been abused by the organisation to turn them in to revenue machines for the organisation. </p>
<p>Subscribers to the organisation calling itself the church of scientology have been taught and sincerely believe that the only way to help is to spread scientology tech; it&#8217;s the only hope for mankind. </p>
<p>They are also taught and sincerely believe that not only is the organisations&#8217; tech the only way to help but that other forms of help, especially but limited to psychiatry, are actually damaging and must be stopped. </p>
<p>It is this kind of programming that has subscribers to the organisation turn up and disaster zones armed only with a yellow tent and scientology literature, including &#8220;anti-psych&#8221; literature, in order to help. They believe they are helping but all they are doing is selling scientology tech at disaster zones; they even have a PR hatted person to ensure good coverage. </p>
<p>Of the many subscribers to the organisation I have known most have been decent people. However as time goes on either more and more demands are put upon them to buy courses and materials or more and more demands are put upon them to sell more courses and materials, or both. </p>
<p>Many become disillusioned with the organisation and see the scam for what it is, an expensive form of self improvement that like most others only works to some degree on some people. </p>
<p>Those it works best with often become disillusioned with the organisation but think it is the problem with the management. They hold out hope that a change in management will result in improvements, what they don&#8217;t realise is that the core policies are the real problem and the only way to ditch those is to break up the organisation because the organisation is built upon them. </p>
<p>Sadly there are those who end up having some kind of psychotic break; often the nicest of people because they are unable to reconcile the supposed beliefs and ideals with the common practices. Here I speak not just of the likes of Lisa McPherson and Greg Bashaw, who ended up dead, but the many others who ultimately survived but only after many months, often years of tailored counselling.</p>
<p>You say the problem with the Freezone is its lack of facilities. Why does scientology need to be like a Toyota car plant? This is part of the problem, the factory mentality of the organisation. It isn&#8217;t enough that one goes at one&#8217;s own pace and cherry picks what works best for them, it is vital that they do more courses and buy more materials in order to keep the organisations stats up and, more importantly, keep the money flowing in.</p>
<p>If people want to embark on a journey of self discovery and improvement and choose to study scientology as part of that then they should not be pressured in to taking courses or buying materials. The Freezone operate reading rooms and there are independent auditors who provide auditing for a modest fee.  </p>
<p>The problem is that Aaron&#8217;s accounts are not an example of the organisation calling itself the church of scientology going wrong, they are an example of exactly how it operates, which is exactly how Hubbard intended it to operate as documented in the myriad of special Sea Org eyes only policies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scientology&#8217;s real scandals by Bill</title>
		<link>http://footbullet.net/2009/11/25/scientology-scandals/#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right in much of what you say.

As an ex-Sea Org member, I can tell you, the truth is much worse than you can glean from hearing it second hand.

Suffice to say, the ex-members&#039; critiques are quite accurate. Sometimes critics who have never been sScientologists err in their enthusiasm, but we ex members lived it.

Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder are two great examples of this, but there are countless others. Only Scientologists believe they are liars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right in much of what you say.</p>
<p>As an ex-Sea Org member, I can tell you, the truth is much worse than you can glean from hearing it second hand.</p>
<p>Suffice to say, the ex-members&#8217; critiques are quite accurate. Sometimes critics who have never been sScientologists err in their enthusiasm, but we ex members lived it.</p>
<p>Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder are two great examples of this, but there are countless others. Only Scientologists believe they are liars.</p>
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